Podcast Then & Now #40 [Part 2]: Teresa Cherfas in conversation with Tanya from Mariupol

20 March 2026

by Teresa Cherfas

Welcome to the second part of the 40th edition of the Russian-language podcast Then & Now with me, Teresa Cherfas 

Today, we continue Tanya’s story from Mariupol. In the first part, we left her with her granddaughter in Krasnodar. Many moves lay ahead before they finally found a more permanent refuge in England.

This podcast was recorded on 13 March 2026

• In the last episode, you told us how you and your granddaughter reached Krasnodar. How did you leave Russia? And how did you end up in England?
• Do you keep in touch with friends and neighbours who still live in Mariupol?
• Do you dream of ever returning home?
• What kind of future would you like to see for Ukraine?